Notes the following in regard to the Black Record 5000 My friend Espen Olav Sjaastad from Norway, #499705 was more than likely manufactured sometime in June 1965. VINTAGE Red ABU AMBASSADEUR 5000 BAIT CASTING FISHING REEL, FOOT #81845. The only hint that lends itself to the 1980's is its 4-point chrome star drag. First pattern used is shown on this 1973 5500C and features, Simon Shimomura is author of three books on collectible Ambassadeur reels and is considered an expert and historian of Ambassadeur. There is a small grouping of serial numbers that belong to the 4-screw 5000C De Luxe version, making it nearly impossible to assemble this reel without knowing which numbers fit. Ambassadeur 5000C Deluxe Reels were also introduced. So far, all that have been found are assembled with a standard capacity spool. I once owned #26227 (below)new in the box withthe silver spool arbor. This reel had a 4-screw frame. Case measurements for the 5000 model are 4 7/8" inch long and 6000 case measures 5 1/2" inch long. As many will know, the Record Ambassadeur 5000 was designed by ke Murvall, starting in the late 1940s. Produced in 1977, both had "00" as their version number and stayed this way throughout the 1970s. 1954: The Ambassadeur went on display at AFTMA show in Conrad Hilton Hotel, Chicago. , 3. Late 1960s Ambassadeur Sweden in script with crest, Ca.Early to mid 1970s, button snap Ambassadeur Sweden in script with crest. ABU received the high honor of the Appointment of Imperial Household Service, the purveyor to HM KONUNGENS HOVLEV, the King of Sweden. My web page is dedicated to classic-era Ambassadeur only. This example is in original condition. 760102 means it was produced in January of 1976,and was the 2nd production. 1949: Ake Murvall is hired as the Production Manager and Chief Designer. This raisesthe question,couldABU have produced 231 units with serial numbers ranging from #1~#10? Actually when first produced, it didn't have a clicker but was sold with a counter balanced handle and large capacity spool. I quickly grabbed Simon's book and checked to see if this reel was listed and as I thought, it was not. On September 7, 2013, a gentleman contacted me with pictures of his 5000 De Luxe with serial number #223. First year of production is 1977. 1971: ABU changed its Serial Numbering System to Production Lot Numbering System. My introduction to collecting tackle started with lures and quickly spread to reels. It isconfirmedthat multiple5000 De Luxecarrying serial numbers #1~#10 have been found. The box was marked "5000B" with matching serial number on the box bottom. It's unclear at this time why ABU continued the practice of no serial numbers until 1964 when the first lot number was applied. Any downloadable file, including but not limiting to PDFs, DOCs, JPEGs, PNGs are provided at the users own risk. #760903 had three design changes and is now the fourth version. Foot number: 13001349. I was 17. During line retrieval the reel is in direct drive. This example has a tear drop shaped star drag and later style counter weight. An authentic5500CDL always carried a version number of "00" and nothing else. striper79 It's also the only model that used ball bearings and was never engraved with "C" beside its model number. On the request from Mamiya-OP, ABU began producing small Ambassadeurs with colors and design never seen before. Like ABU in the early years, Mamiya-OP focused a lot on sales and advertising. The Record Ambassadeur 5000, 5000A, and 6000 models were also added to the series of Ambassadeur lineups. It was sold in the European market only in 1952 until sometime in 1953. The 5000De Luxe introduced in 1962, was the first. or Best Offer. Currently, #010876 is the lowest serial number I've recorded for 3-screw 5000CDL. ABU may have waited until the bait clicker was installed some time in 1966 before justifying the cost of having box tops and display cards labeled, I was able to narrow down the date of this 5000B with shipping record information Iobtained for serial number 500275. The serial numbe Abu Garcia Ambassadeur 5000C (4 Screw Frame 4.7:1 Ratio?). This is a complete package with unmarked Record case with chrome buckle. Lot #770800. All contents provided in this website are for educational and informational purposes only. By this time, the rights to market Abu products in Japan had been transferred from Ebisu Fishing to Olympic. In the late 1970s, ABU introduced its high speed model with the Thumbar. Simon Shimomura's books are an excellent guide to help answer these questions and one would be wise to purchase his books. . Cog wheel posts for original ABUproduction will be made of, 1500C, 2500C and 5001C produced in the 1970's will have a, ..Original quick take-down thumb nutsused two basic knurling designs. This one is chocolate in color. $49.99 + $8.95 shipping. ()PDFs, DOCs, JPEGs, PNGs. They produced lavished catalogs (mainly in Japanese) with high quality images, informative description and details; the company soon shot to fame, distributing a total of 105,000 small Ambassadeurs in 31 different designs over a span of 7 years. Dummy numbers are not common on De Luxe or C De Luxe reel foot. The first use of a serial number may have started in late 1955 or early 1956 and was used only on the 5000 model during the 1950's. 1887: Halda Watchmaking Company (A.B.Halda Fabriker) was established by Henning Hammarlund. It's also during this time when "Record" engraving is removed and "ABU" permanently took its place on the 5000 model. Only by stripping line from the spool, can one see which type spool is installed. With a 4 digit .. After 1971, the serial numbers were changed to production lot numbers with the . Unlike it's 5000D cousin, the 5500D never had a clicker installed. Secondly, ABU would not throw away 24kt gold 4-screw frames. This design masterpiece was however put to a stop due to Second World War. No slide clicker button but has the same clicker knob with numbers. Acetone evaporates quickly and removes all fingerprints to give your reel the mirror finish it had when it left the assembly line. Art Hutt's review of the Swedish Ambassadeur reel, more comonly known as the ABU 5000 from the March 1954 issue of The Fisherman magazine. If it does not, the frame is most likely a replacement. Crank nut threading for Abu Garcia Ambassadeur 5000? 5000 (red) has leather type case with oil and parts. One can only speculate as to why ABUused revisionnumber "01"months earlier but did notact on it. ABU Ambassadeur 5000 5500 Worm Shaft 7.19 Buy Now ABU Ambassadeur 5000 5500 Worm Tube 4.21 Buy Now Abu Ambassadeur 5000 6000 Bronze Spool Bush 1.78 Buy Now Abu Ambassadeur 5000 6000 Titanium Line Carriage 6.76 Buy Now ABU Ambassadeur 5000 to 6000 Line Carriage Nut 2.16 Buy Now Abu Ambassadeur 5500 6500 Black Clicker Switch 3.36 Buy Now 1891: Carl-August Borgstrom, a watchmaker was employed by Halda Watchmaking Company. 5000D, NUMBER ON FOOT 750401 A.B. Like many anglers, I was introduced to fishing by a good buddy of mine more thantwo decades ago and this transformed from a pastime into a passion. Simon has said, "It's a continual process to find the two sequential serial numbers that define the frame change from 4-screw to 3-screw." This reel is identical in every way to the one I had been watching. Ambassadeur 5600C and 6500 (Brown) Reels were introduced. One will often hear the terms 3-screw and 4-screw in reference to the Ambassadeur reels. The Ambassadeur 6500 (Red) Reels were introduced. The non-ABU 5000 came packaged in a plain cardboard box with leather case like the Record models. This confirms both box and reel were assembled together at the factory in 1965. The need to serialize was so ABU could keep better track of production. Roman Numeral markIIis foundinside both side plates, frame and brake plate. Can anyone tell me how to date these reels. 4600C, 5600C and 6600C were ABU's only Thumbar models produced during the classic years which ended in 1979. The design of Small Ambassadeur was enduring. The website owner makes no representation to the accuracy or completeness of any information on this site or found by following any link on this site. "ABU"engraving is located well to the left of spool cap. Started 9 hours ago, By It should be noted that these differences most likely will not extend past one year. The complete list of bronze bushing models are listed here: 4000D, 4500, 5000(A,B,D) 5500(D) 6000, 6500 and 7000. The first, The Ambassadeur and I and The Ambassadeur and I, Final Chapter are must have books if you really want to understand these reels. Quote Members 220 Location East Tn Finding one new in the box would indeed command a high value. A reel purchased sometime during the Summer of 1972 could have old stock parts from 1971 assembled to it. 1926: AB Urfabriken presents its first Taximeter under the name Record. Hi Chuck, I invite you to visit Tom Jacomet's https://lurelore.com/website whichhosts my ABU information page. This means they never received a design change during their short production life span. I've shown a picture of the plastic parts you'll find in your classic reel (1952-1979) that can safely be cleaned in Acetone. I will like to acknowledge all my friends for their selfless contribution to the details of this website, else it will not be as detailed as I wanted it to be, benefiting our community. 3. The 5500 is found in light and dark variations. Abu Garcia Ambassadeur C3 Round 6500 Reel - Left Hand. my childern are all readt fighting over it. In all my years of collecting I've yet to come across this version, however, I have seen this model with all the features I mentioned but it had beveled rim. Note the poor attempt at gold plating a common 5500C frame with lot number 760903. The serial numbers on these reels started with #1. More about these two reels can be found in my discovery of the 4-screw 5000C De Luxe near the top of this page. Just from what I have read in Simon Shimomura's two books I believe your reel is probably a 3 screw model and made around 1968. They were only 570 units apart on the assembly line. W hilst not technically badged as an original Ambassadeur, I will always see the Morrum family. In my opinion, this reel was likely manufactured near the end of 1957 or the first few months of 1958 due to the factory exhausting N.O S. parts. It is much finer in texture compared to the green handle which is original. Black handle paddles can be brought back to full luster by using Armor-All. Could this be the first 5000C box used in the U.S.? The 5000C had its own set of serial numbers which started at 10001. I have an Ambassadeur 5000 still in the case in mint condition, with tube o Hello, I have a Ambassadeur 5000 c black and the case as well. 1960~71 Brass latch, "Ambassadeur Sweden" in script with crest (most common). There are other examples of specific change within certain model groups but this should give the collector an idea of ABU's versatility when it came to part usage. 1920: Halda Watchmaking Company Carl-August Borgstrom , 1921: AB Urfabriken (ABU) Carl-August Borgstrom, , 1926: AB Urfabriken Record. 6 figure serialized 179911 is from the 50's to early 60's. 6 figure numbers xx06xx is mid-60's replace the 0 in the middle with the number 6. 1951: This is the biggest highlight of ABUs History. Not wanting to disturb Simon yet, I kept the listing to myself until a few days later when another one comes to auction which is the one pictured here. If you live in a very low humidity environment such as Arizona, you may have to apply this product sooner. 4000, 6000 (C) 8000 and 9000 can be found with the earliest date code arrangement. Lot #097200 September/1972. Additionally, Instant Anti Reverse (IAR) bearing made by German manufacturer INA was also introduced for the first time on these Small Ambassadeurs. Below can be found information, but not limited to, dating reels, reel cases, model number and letter designations, warning signs of altered reels, version numbers and their meaning. 5000A..Record Ambassadeur 5000A is added to the line up in 1955 along with the debut of Record Ambassadeur 6000 and is the first known "A" model. Oddly enough, I've seen several 6000's with #050701 (May '67) and #060701 (June '67) but neither change had taken place yet. It could have been filled by the sporting goods outlet where it was purchased new. My Tackle Box, Abu Ambassadeur was created with the intent of sharing the Rich History and Fine Engineering Design of Fishing Equipment with anyone who appreciates them as much as I do. Look for Simon's unique 7 font on all his plates. Record Amb. The Ambassadeur 1500C and 2500C described in this section refers to Small Ambassadeur reels produced from 1989 till Present (for Small Ambassadeurs produced before 1985, please refer to Classic Abu Ambassadeur, Ambassadeur 1500C & 2500C Series). 0232 stands for #232 and G stands for Garcia where item was shipped. Vintage Abu Garcia Ambassadeur 6000. The earliest Record 5000 model was engraved MOD SG and is located on the lower left side plate. Very early 1960's. What year was this reel made? I was able to narrow down the date of this 5000B with shipping record information Iobtained for serial number 500275. can experience the same thing. If your 5000 has a spool with this color arrangement, please contact me so I can record it. These reels had plastic side plates and were made in mind for saltwater fisherman. The 1750, 1750A, Abu 3000, Amb. This rare beauty is owned by my dear friend Billy Taylor who also collects Ambassadeur. Used in 1976 for certain models. Ambassadeur 500 (90-0 2).pdf . #010802.By January,1968the new 3-screw models with bait clicker have taken over. Information in this segment does not apply to model numbers higher than 6600C. I would say late 50's due to the red flanged spool with the grey arbor, but the serial # is what's throwing me off. #010876 - Lowest 3-screw serial number known by me as of July 2017. in May of 1958 with the help of a known shipping record. If your reel has #2, 4, 6, 8, 10..it should have a lot number. I've been recording serial numbers on different models for quite some time now and this was the lowest number I had ever seen for 5000C De Luxe. Pre-1980 ABU production items do not have "7" hook font. This is also the year where Ambassadeur 6000C reels were introduced. Red Abu Ambassadeur No. The only way to give you an exact date of manufacture would be to check the reel foot number with the shipping records from the factory. Any other number combinations not listed above should give you pause, as the reel may or may not be in original condition. As her demand increased, ABU moved from its original timber building to a new building (currently the first section of the present building). Although it was first produced in March 1975, the Ambassadeur 2500C only made to the market in 1976. (12) December (05) 1965 (01) revisions. AU $101.42 postage. abu garcia ambassadeur 4500 C in very nice condition. Started Friday at 06:46 PM, By 3 SCREW MODEL. series handle for the 2000 (part #2240) had a small rectangular hole cut to fit the drive gear's shaft (part #1710B.) He manufactures his own line of custom-made ", Looking at the numbered dial around the bearing housing, the. December 31, 1976. There were only 500 made andreleased in two batches. Engraved with it's model number, it was not serialized but stamped "Made in Sweden" on the foot. The residue particles form a barrier between metal and dye causing incomplete anodization. With the introduction of Ambassadeur 2050 in 1964, parts for the first series 2000 such as the carriage screw and others were redesigned to mirror those found in the 2050. There is nofriction washer installed which is typicalfor this model. Both parts are addedto the schematic by Garcia and not by ABU. Gold plating is missing in several areas youshouldn't see duringnormal use or handling. I'll attemptto show pictures in chronological order that led up to the rare 4-screw version of 5000CDL. 4000, 6000(C) 8000 and 9000 can be found with the earliest date code arrangement. It incorporated an adjustable drag system with the free spool concept. Abu Garcia will have no other obligation and will not be liable for incidental or consequential damages. Left side plate part #2293 fit models (2000 2nd series), 2050, 2500, 2600 and 2650. 1979: The last batch of Silver Ambassader 6500C ended her production in August and the First Black Ambassadeur 6500C was produced in November. Basswiper #499705 was most likely manufactured/shipped in June 1965, well within the first 2 years of production where 5000B is not assembled with the click button. Part #9200 seen in the lower middle portion of the schematic is described as a drag conversion kit and can be purchased separately. Pictured below, is a rare version of Record Ambassadeur 5000A. Simon has given me credit to discovering this reel and it's mentioned in his biography published in Japanese in 2010 and his latest book titled The Mystique of Ambassadeur, Its Unexplored Stories published in December 2011 in both English and Japanese. This is an example of a 5000A with gray arbor/black flange spool. The overwhelming majority I've recorded have been between 103xxx~107xxx. , 5. Virtually all bait casting reels today use similar technology. What year did they make the switch from the flat top screws, to the partially rounded top screws? First picture is from my personal collection showing 5000 De Luxe with serial number 8097. It was a mutt! Red Abu Ambassadeur No. Amabassadeur 1500C2500C Ambassadeur 1989(Ambassadeurs 1985Abu Ambassadeur, , Ambassadeur 5600C 6500 (), 1 , 2500C21500C2500C1500C197931500C2500C19821985, Ambassadeur 2500CS Rocket (A-A25-CSR-0-005-N-R), Ambassadeur 2500CS Rocket (A-A25-CSR-0-010-N-R), Ambassadeur 1500C IAR (A-A15-IAR-M-020-N-C), Ambassadeur 2500C IAR (A-A25-IAR-M-040-N-C), Ambassadeur 2500C IAR (A-A25-IAR-M-045-N-C), Ambassadeur 2500C IAR (A-A25-IAR-M-050-N-R), Ambassadeur 2500C IAR (A-A25-IAR-M-055-N-R), Ambassadeur 2500C IAR (A-A25-IAR-M-065-N-C), Ambassadeur 2600C IAR (A-A26-IAR-M-005-N-C), Ambassadeur 2601C IAR (A-A26-IAR-M-010-N-C), Ambassadeur 2601C IAR (A-A26-IAR-M-015-N-C), Ambassadeur 2500CDL Napp & Nytt 1948-2008 (A-A25-CDL-P-050-N-R), Ambassadeur 2600C Elite (A-A26-ELT-P-001-N-R), Ambassadeur 2600C Elite (A-A26-ELT-P-002-N-R), Teal Ambassaduer 2500CDL (A-A25-CDL-S-048-N-C), Teal Ambassadeur 2500CDL (A-A25-CDL-S-049-N-C), Teal Ambassadeur 2500CDL (A-A25-CDL-S-050-N-C), Record Ambassadeur MOD SG (A-RAM-MSG-0-050-N-R), Record Ambassadeur MOD SG (A-RAM-MSG-0-100-U-R), Record Ambassadeur MOD SG (A-RAM-MSG-0-125-U-R), Record Ambassadeur MOD SG (A-RAM-MSG-0-150-U-R), Record Ambassadeur MOD SG (A-RAM-MSG-0-200-U-R), Record Ambassadeur MOD SG (A-RAM-MSG-0-250-M-R). I have found that the side plates will retain their color for well over a year without re-applying. 2015 is a transitional year so the "7" hook font can be found on some of his items. There is little doubt that all mechanical parts inside this reel are those from a 1968 6000C. 1972: ABU produced the Ambassadeur 5500C and 6500C. Virtually all others will have a solid black spool. *Black Ambassadeur 5500C (Decal Model) was introduced in 1979. AU $359.94. in sequential order and will be either 5 or 6 digit. I also have an ABU Ambassadeur 55000 C it is silver with high speed can you give me an i dia of its worth. Chuck. It should be noted that the correct 5500 handle for this case is the 80mm power handle with twin flat knobs. The mechanical change for the 6000 wasthe addition of a bait clicker and themove from 4-screw to a 3-screw frame was the design change. In question is the left plate's numbered bearing housing with "hook" or "tear-drop" shape font on the leading edge of the number "7". The earlier Ambassadeur 5000s from the late 1950s to about mid 1971 used sequential serial numbers. Those stamped "oil" once, will soon replace it. All cases below appear in chronological order and their dates should be considered very close for the time period offered. Second pattern used, and most common,is Male knurlingseen on this1978 4500. It may sound overwhelming to figure all this out, but it can be determined with a little initiative. The confusion seems to be if you have a 5001C with mushroom style takedown screws, it must be the first version. Let me make one quick point for the new collectors reading this. AU $12.00 postage. Since the inception of the Ambassadeur 2500C, she was distributed globally through agents and outlets for about 2 years until the yet smaller and lighter Ambassdeur 1500C was born. My 5000C serial number research continuestopoint to January 1968 as the date when all frames changed, however, it is the6000 model that may have been the first touse the "new" 3-screw frame by at least November 1967. 1973/March. Another example of specific change was the 5000D. This is currentlythe highest serial number I've personally seen for 5000C. ABU Garcia became a distributor responsible for the exclusive sales and marketing thrust in United States. Small Ambassdeurs produced in the Pure Fishing era is often sighted with Large ABU emblem, 5-Prongs Straight Cut Star-Wheel, 4.7:1 gear ratio, Oil stamped handle retainer nut and round handle knob pin light those used in the classic years. Between Simon and I, we hope to accomplish this through discovery of new serial numbers. If you have a 4-screw 5000C De Luxe please contact me so I can continue my research on them. This is also the transition year which ABU changed her Sideplates from Grooved Rims to Beveled Rims and Reel Foot from Smooth to the Dimples type. From about mid 1964 on, lot numbers that dated the reel were applied for the first time. Although never engraved with "A", 5000A is listed for the first time in Garcia's 1957 catalog. 1966: Ambassadeur 5000C reels were introduced. 5001C lot numbers can be read using the second and third type code respectively. This is an on-going effort and I will update them as soon as I have the capacity to do so. Simon anodizes hisplates in colors known to match those manufactured by ABU and champagne gold is one of them. This was a great moment for me. One likely reason is that ABU wanted to maintain the harmony of their first gold presentation model. Model stickers are another concern. Like myself you treasure family heirlooms, If it was my dads reel it would be priceless. There are two books on the market by author and historian Simon Shimomura. Anodized finish inside Simon's plates are 100%. Currently, the earliest lot number I've found for model 6000 is #070400 made in July, 1964. After our conversation, he sent the reel to me for inspection and cleaning. 5000C De Luxe #10735.currently highest known as ofJanuary 2014. "ABU" engraving is located underneath the spool cap. by Jerry J in OK Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:53 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, Absolution style by Premium phpBB Styles Amabassadeur 1500C2500C Ambassadeur 1989(Ambassadeurs 1985Abu Ambassadeur, Ambassadeur 1500C & 2500C Series), 4198919891993, 1993OPABUOP()731105,000, OPABU()CIINA(IAR)1996Ambassadeur 2500CIOP, 199110Mamyia-OP200012 ABU, 1500C IAR2500C IAR320032007ABU5-4.7:1, -OP(). Lot number 740500 has no design changes. 'S 1957 catalog were applied for the first time in Garcia 's 1957 catalog plates, frame and brake.., 6, 8, 10.. it should be noted that these differences most a. 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